okay so I keep seeing people claiming that Cersei’s jealousy of Brienne is OOC and I am just baffled to be honest.
Cersei is so jealous of Brienne. There is not a fibre of Cersei’s being that is not jealous of Brienne.
and that has nothing to do with Jaime.
I mostly agree with this, but I do have a couple of quibbles.
One, that it has nothing to do with Jaime… well, yeah, it sort of does, because Cersei no longer has Jaime’s heart, to the extent that she used to, unconditionally, because Jaime is no longer exactly the same person that he was when they last saw each other. And who was around for most of that evolution? Brienne.
The other is that it is a power play, but it’s the sort of power play that is done by someone whose grip on power is slipping, as Cersei’s is due both to her father and her son’s bride. Cersei’s pettiness is characteristic, as is Margaery’s and the Queen of Thorns’ courtesies toward Brienne, since, unlike Cersei, they don’t make the common mistake of underestimating the Maid.
I actually totally agree, it is kind of to do with Jaime, but I was just so sick of everyone claiming it was all about some kind of High-School-Drama love triangle that I overemphasised the lack of Jaime-related motivation.
I’m not entirely sure how your second point is disagreeing with me? Because that, when I was writing the post, is what I was thinking. Her petty little digs at Brienne are mostly to do with desperately trying to prove to herself that she still has some power (as is the scene with Pycelle). She’s lashing out at anyone she perceives as weak because this wedding is essentially stripping her of the power she craves.
I’d like to point out that what spurred Cersei to speak to Brienne was Brienne’s response to her ‘did you just bow?’ with a polite reply suggesting that Brienne has never been demanded to live the life of a lady. The fact that Cersei opens with ‘You are Selwyn Tarth’s daughter and that makes you a lady, whether you like it or not’ is telling of which nerve Brienne’s comment had plucked. Jaime didn’t enter the equation until later.
In fact, I don’t think Cersei’s intention to confront Brienne about Jaime in the first place The gratitude she expresses in her bringing back to safety initially began as a platitude and it wasn’t until Brienne mentioned how Jaime had ‘saved her more than once’ that layered on an unexpected wave of anger. Cersei is not threatened by Brienne’s affections for Jaime or Jaime affections for Brienne; what she’s angered by is the fact that Jaime ‘took too long’ to get back to her in King’s Landing and she supposes its because he was wasting time saving Brienne.
Jaime had been Cersei’s ‘shining knight’ all her life and now he was playing shining knight for other people instead of being there for her when she needed him.
So yes, there is some jealous involved but I very much doubt it’s because Cersei sees Brienne as a threat to her relationship with Jaime or because she genuinely believes that Jaime would pursue Brienne. As trebuchettully mentioned, Cersei was on a warpath at the wedding. She was seeing her loss of power everywhere. Loss of power as queen regent, loss of power over her son, loss of power as woman in having to conform to social norms, and then a loss of power over Jaime.
tl;dr: yes, the confrontation was a power play and yes there was jealousy involved, but it was not romantic or sexual jealousy. totes agree
I agree with this and especially on the fact that what triggered Cersei was exactly Brienne’s casual comment about never being able to master the curtsy, which was totally good natured on Brienne’s part, but hit a nerve on Cersei, because it came off as “haha, I am above such things, your grace” and oh boy, Cersei wishes no one ever forced on her the curtsy and all that feminine drivel too, but she had to learn, to turn into the perfect lady even though she had the heart of a warrior. So she sees Brienne and she’s like “and who the hell do you think you are? If I had to bend, you will too!” In essence, everything Brienne is pisses Cersei off big time because she sees Brienne as a big spoiled brat with a weak father who for some reason granted her all the nice things Cersei never had.